Only a couple days after stating that intention, I was regretting it. CSM candidates were appearing everywhere. I didn't relish trying to figure out who was doing what, when and how. Thankfully, Seleene beat me to the punch. If he wanted to track it, let him do it. It was probably much easier for him to track anyhow, since he could just ask the members to throw him a note with every appearance, blog post, etc.
I'd like to start this report card by ripping on Ripard who recently ripped on the CSM for not living up to some impossibly and unrealistically high standard of his. This CSM has been making itself available in record quantities. In the first two weeks alone, there were more CSM podcasts and blog posts than there were during CSM6's entire year of service. That level of output continued on through to CSM7's first Summit in Iceland.
That the CSM is a tad quiet this last month, suddenly they get a failing grade, the big stamp of disapproval from Ripard Teg. First of all, it's summer, vacations and all that. Summer is simply a slow time of year for EVE Online, and the CSM is no exception to that rule. We didn't elect automatons, these people do have families and lives. Two, the CSM is in the process of finalizing a ~200 page document that goes into every detail of the last CSM Summit. Two hundred pages!?! Normal people don't whip that off in a week. Not too mention that it all has to pass through CCP eyes (many of the principals who do take holidays this time of year.)
So when I tell Ripard Teg that he'd bloody well be a CSM8 candidate next year, this is not a case of him criticising a movie and me telling him that if he thinks he can do better he should bloody well make his own movie. In the movie example, neither we nor Ripard believes that he is qualified to direct or produce a multi-million dollar film. With respect to the CSM, Ripard doesn't just think of himself as being qualified for the CSM, he thinks of himself as being exceptionally qualified. He keeps telling us he can do the job, then he should do it, show us all how fantastically spectacular the CSM could be with him in a seat.
So we now wait for the 200 page Summit Report. Two. Hundred. Pages. That's obscene. It's due soon too, a week or two more. You can't give any CSM a failing grade for giving us that much detail. Hell, even without the report, just look at the reviews Seleene gave us pre- and post-Summit. Those are giant walls of text that he produced for us, outside of the work he's doing on the Summit report. That's insane, yet Ripard gives them a failing grade on lack of communication. The mind boggles.
These people are actually working and producing for us. This has been the hardest working CSM, by far. This has been the most visible CSM, by far.
Final grade: A-.
(Down from an A+, due to Darius III being a useless tit. I feel much shame for having given D3 some support pre-CSM7. Down from an A grade, because I'd like to see one of Seleene's "The CSM on the Internet" posts again.)
Writing 200 pages is BS. Even you called it OBSCENE. Anyone who has worked a long time in "ANY" office the project worker who piles piles of paper work up isnt actually doing anything ....except making himself appear busy. These are normally the least effective people in getting things done, because they get bogged down in the mechanics of appearing to be working, instead of getting things completed. To take this long to make commentary/minutes of meetings is slow to glacial. Minutes are just that they are MINUTES.
ReplyDeleteYeah its summer, people have real life but amaazingly you and riptard and a bunch of other bloggers have put more out week to week then thay have done as a group for a whole month.
Keep kissing their ass maybe they will let you on some inside info ....
You just get annoyed by Riptard, his ego bugs the crap out of you(in my mind he deserves that ego he appears to successful at what he does).
You couldnt even give a balanced pick of the AT10 PL v Rote Tournament. Even PL had some respect for Rote when they pulled their Flagship and 4 x Malice out.
God I wonder why I even come back to this blog....
They aren't releasing minutes. This isn't a "CCP gave us the lowdown on [game mechanic A] and the CSM responded positively to the change.
DeleteThis is a full on report of the meetings. They are basically transcribing the complete recordings.
The problem with the minutes from previous CSM's were that they were short on detail. Nobody will be able to complain about lack of detail here. As well, you can see who said what, who had problems with what, and who agreed with what.
I did give a balanced pick of PL vs Rote. Very few people thought Rote were going to win, especially after having lost so spectacularly to RvB.
Quite a few people have been losing in spectacular fashion to RvB. And last I checked, PL would disagree with your assessment of 'cakewalk'. You don't bring a flagship and 4 AT IX ships to a cakewalk.
DeleteAs to the 'transcribing the complete recordings' of a meeting, a bit of common sense would say that's entirely unnecessary. It just gives you way too much chaff to wade through to get to what matters. Should the minutes be more detailed then 'CCP said X, the CSM responded positively'? Yes. Should they include 10 pages on the CSM candidates detailing every anecdotal example they have for why they might agree or disagree with the proposal so that the actual end result gets sandwiched in on page 11 by which point you've lost 90% of your audience? No.
So unless they've done a fantastic job collating and then summarizing, we could very well end up with so much information that only people who have time to exhaustively read through 200 pages of notes will be able to grasp what it all means. And just as the CSM aren't automatons, with real lives and whatnot, the same goes for their constituents.
If you want to guarantee a win, and you think those types of ships will make the match much easier, then sure. I think they thought those ships would make their match reasonably swift and easy. I know they have more ISK than God and God's brother, but I'm sure they would have rather not lost the flagship, and would have preferred not to have put the Malice's at risk. Which is why they probably expected those ships would give them so much of an advantage that they could breeze through the fight and not have to worry about next Saturday.
DeleteWe'll have to wait to see exactly what the 200 page report will be. No point speculating, other than that it will contain more detail than what we're used too.
(I'm sure Ripard will enjoy dissecting it from the day it is released until October. This is his food. He can then tell us how awesome he would have been on the CSM if we'd only begged him to run and showered him with votes.)
Ripard, are you behind these anonymous posts? :P :)
ReplyDeleteI've been reading Jester's Trek for quite some time now and I've enjoyed his guides, fits, kills and comments of the week.
ReplyDeleteHowever, over the last year or so I've noticed a number of Jester's posts slanting toward sensationalism.
In my opinion, he intentionally tries to provoke people either to garner comments to his posts or for more hits on his blog. I pretty much pass over those posts.
With regard to his CSM posts; I think his intention was to get a response from them since they'd been so quiet, and it worked.
With regard to the CSM Minutes; Anonymous-1 you're talking out of your ass. You make generalizations and assumptions based on your mood. Go have a Coke and a smile. : )
Poetic - I'm enjoying your blog. Many thanks!
I get what you're saying. But these 200 pages are far more theoretical than real until we actually have them and can read them.
ReplyDeleteHow are they theoretical? Unless you feel the CSM is just yanking our chain. We'll have the report soon and it's almost ready. CSM members say so, there's little reason to believe they aren't telling the truth.
DeleteUntil you release them, all we have are your word. And I can easily understand how folks could be doubtful with how little public work has been seen.
DeleteYeah, some of us have had more time the past weeks than others. I've personally had an avalanche of RL shizzle to deal with immediately following the Summit but was VERY active leading up to and during it. Business trips, visiting family during the summer, a ton of personal issues and an upcoming new job all punched me in the face at once recently but that's just life.
ReplyDeleteThank you for acknowledging the 10,000+ words that I put into the post-summit report blogs. I did that specifically because I knew it was going to take a lot of time for the minutes to be completed and each post took a couple days of effort (around work, etc...). Also, the only other 'Chariman' that even had a blog or used it during their tenure was Mynxee. I'll be back to publishing some more regular CSM updates soon-ish. Until then, I expect the minutes to be out very soon. They are in CCP's hands for final approval AFAIK. I'll let the minutes speak for themselves but I will say this - those who screamed for transparency will get it and then some. This is the first time it's been done like this so both sides are having to do a bit more work then normal.