Sunday, April 8, 2012

Hulkageddon V - It's a Trap! (v2)

I'm probably going to write a bunch of different articles leading up to Hulkageddon. It's one of the defining events of EVE. EVE Online would not be EVE Online if something like Hulkageddon could not happen. A kinder gentler EVE-O would have announced the shutting down of the servers back in 2008 or 2009.

Yesterday I posted a Gankalyst fit. Today, I figured I should come at the equation from the other side. Hand out a potential Hulk bait fit that'll cause ganker tears to flow. A spanish inquisition fit, so to speak.

This is the re-edited version. A few people in the comments (here and on Reddit) suggested replacing one of the Power Diagnostic Systems with a Damage Control II. I'm cool with suggestions. I'm still a newb, and learning is part of the game. Always.

Hulkageddon gankers aren't the most well-prepared folks in the world. They're taking part just for the t-shirt. About as prepared as they get is fitting out a bunch of gank ships, moving them to the prime ganking locations. Most of the rest of their equation is assumption. The see a Hulk, they assume it's equipped for maximum mining efficiency. There are not a whole lotta gankers out there that rely on ship scanning alts (for one, it alerts their prey to what is about to happen.)

Folks that make a living out of ganking, they'll scan you down, likely ignore you. That's fine. Means you're not losing a Hulk.

[Hulk, It's a tarp! (revised)]
Small Energy Neutralizer II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal I

Ballistic Deflection Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Vespa EC-600 x4
Hammerhead II x1


This fit assumes either a Brutix gank, or Catalyst gang ganks. Blaster fits. Kinetic/Thermal damage. Overheated, this will give the Hulk 25871 EHP, 65% electro-magnetic resistance, 95% thermal resistance, 92.3% kinetic resistance, and 80.4% explosive resistance. Capacitor is stable at 31%. The Small Energy Neutralizer is to get you on the killmail, if you can lock fast enough. The strip miners are to add some legitimacy to your sitting in an asteroid belt (impossible to fit three strip miners on this fit, simply not enough CPU.) One Hammerhead II drone (another opportunity to get you on the killmail) and the rest ECM drones. Getting on the killmail is for the lols. Watch the WTFs!?! and growling in local. I'm no pro at EFT, so not sure how many Gankalysts it would take to pop this Hulk, but my guess is more than the usual gang of three.

Nothing is ungankable. The goal here is to protect against the current flavour of the month in gank fits. Right now, that's the Catalyst. Some folks still prefer Minmatar over Gallente. If Thrasher gangs are more prevalent in your area, then switch up the shield hardeners to take into account the different damage types.

All that said, don't start locking the gankers until they set their drones on you, otherwise you're giving up the ghost. To make it look really good, when the gankers arrive on grid, you might want to stop mining and making slow 180 degree align, act as though you're trying to escape. Once you've surprised them into being CONCORDed, move on. Don't sit in the same system. You're asking for them to bring a larger force. You've pissed them off, they'll want their e-honour restored.

(All of these numbers based on all skills at V in EFT.)

16 comments :

  1. not enough buffer

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  2. I'm no Hulk flier but I'd think LSE, invuln, invuln, with a DC2 in lows?? Swap a CDFE for anti EM and should give good omniTank. Sebo2 with res script in spare mid, no??

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  3. is it a Trap or a Tarp?

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  4. definately recommend throwing a dc2 in place of a pdu

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  5. A Hulk has three times as many HP in its hull as it does in its shields; if you're not fitting a Damage Control to your bait fit, you are failing.

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    1. @Anon and @Anon:

      I'll add some text about replacing a DC2 in place of a PDS.

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  6. Sorry to say that everything you have written is pointless. It doesn't matter how you fit your ship as all it takes is one more dessie and your dead.

    The best way to survive is not to mine afk, use D-Scan and actually talk to other miners in your system and look out for each other.

    I have survived 3 Hulkageddon's by doing this, never even come close to being ganked.

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    1. I'm pretty sure successful mining is not the goal here.

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  7. Krixtal IcefluxorApril 9, 2012 at 10:19 AM

    Sorry, it's not worth sacrificing an entire STRIPPER, reducing Yield by 33%, just on the odd chance of survival. This thing...in fact no fit....will survive even 3 catalysts, and they almost always show up with more.

    It fact...the most IDIOTIC thing is to even mine anyway during H'geddon. There are MANY other ways for an Industrialist to make money for the duration.

    Mine for full Yield or nothing at all.

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  8. Bring back Teh Battle-Hulk of Win(TM):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndWUlntJ58U

    (The fit would be rather different--this was from when warp-core stabilisers had no drawbacks, and Nosferatus drained as much as neuts whilst replenishing your cap--but, oh, the lol-potential is still...well, incalcuable.)

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  9. I think it's fun, trust PvE types to be so SERIOUS!

    Better fit:

    Damage Control II
    Micro Auxiliary Power Core II

    Limited Thermic Dissipation Field I
    Medium Shield Extender II
    Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

    Strip Miner I
    Strip Miner I
    Strip Miner I

    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

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  10. [Hulk, Survivor]

    3x Modulated Strip Miner II

    Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
    EM Ward Field II
    Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
    Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I (Optimal Range Disruption Script)

    Damage Control II
    Power Diagnostic System II

    2x Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

    5x Vespa EC-600

    all ECM drones. Getting DPS off you keeps you alive. 1 DPS drone ain't gonna help. Tracking disruptor to try to get them to miss some DPS. Yours is better against blasters, but don't forget about alpha ships, especially tornadoes.

    Yours gets a tiny boost in total EHP, mine will be a lot tougher against Nadoes firing EMP. Also mine doesn't give away the game by having a missing strip miner.

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  11. You can bump the EHP up to about 33.6k if you swap out one of the heat dissipation fields for a medium shield extender II. You do have to take the small Neut off as well though.

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  12. The next Hulkaggedon should be Hulks Vs Gankers: if you survive a gank, you get points & if you blow up a hulk, you get points as well. And may the most devious side win!
    This kind of system would draw more hulks in the fights. And the more fights there are, the better Eve is :D

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